COVID-19

[Finlay Mitchell]

As a matter of interest. I live in PEKANBARU RIAU province. I have for yrs been suffering under the side effects of this man made disaster. I have visited All the main Hospitals and Clinics asking if I can, first and foremost do a NAATs test to determine once and for all, if it,s Covid-19 or not. That would be unnecessary actually, I know its COVID, but anyway, YOU CANNOT GET A COVID TEST DONE here. Ive also asked about VACCINE, that is also a non starter. The last vaccine i had was 2022.
SINGAPORE as well as MALAYSIA have stated double the number of cases recently.
Are we likely to see any movement from the INDO side concerning vaccine, there s nothing on the web.
What does a man have to do to get a vaccine???

 

[marcus]

From https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/lifes...id-19-naik-lagi-kemenkes-imbau-vaksin-booster
Title : COVID-19 Cases Rise Again, Ministry of Health Appeals for Booster Vaccines
By Fergi Nadira, CNBC Indonesia , May 2025

The Indonesian Ministry of Health has appealed to the public, especially vulnerable groups, to immediately receive a COVID-19 booster vaccination following the spike in cases in Singapore. The Ministry of Health also reminded that the stock of free booster vaccines is currently running low.

As reported by detikHealth, the spike in cases in Singapore was caused by the emergence of a new variant. Given the high mobility between Indonesia and Singapore, the risk of cross-border transmission has also increased...

Head of the Bureau of Communication and Public Services of the Indonesian Ministry of Health, Aji Muhawarman, explained that the COVID-19 booster vaccine can still be accessed for free at first-level health facilities such as community health centers, but the number is limited...

He added that the limited stock was due to the decline in public demand in the last few months. Even so, the Ministry of Health has not announced a list of health facilities that still have free vaccine stock.

Outside of the government program, people can still get vaccines independently through clinics or pharmacies at a price range of Rp200'000.

An infectious disease expert from Singapore said the LF.7 and NB.1.8 variants were the main causes of the spike in cases. Both are subvariants of JN.1, which is also the basis for the latest vaccine formulation.

"For most patients, the symptoms still resemble the common flu, and most patients recover quickly," said Dr. Kim Lim Show from Life Family Clinic, Singapore.

 

[Balifrog]

My goodness, there we go again with this madness...
I guess I'll do same as last time : nothing.
And sure no experimental vaccine !

 

[Shadrach]

My goodness, there we go again with this madness...
I guess I'll do same as last time : nothing.
And sure no experimental vaccine !

That's for sure! Everyone I knew that got the Vaccine, and boosters, all caught Covid! And the ones that didn't, Never caught it! Who know's what is in it, and what is really being given to the Masses?

 

[jstar]

The fact that you write something like that, is already the best promotion they can get.

In my country there was a salsa dance teacher who was heading the anti vax movement. And in the US we have a minister with a worm in his head. Yep, it’s going well in the world.

Anyway, for the OP, it seems the stock in the government program is extremely low so forget getting a free one now. But people can still get vaccines independently through clinics or pharmacies. That will cost you approx. 200K rupiah.

 

[Finlay Mitchell]

But people can still get vaccines independently through clinics or pharmacies.
Hello jstar. I live in Pekanbaru Riau Provins. EVERYWHERE i,ve asked about a vaccine here is met with
a blank face. Indonesia is,nt interested in anything to do with Vaccines or Boosters or anything to do with Covid. Untill I do a definitive test to determine once and for all i either have it or dont have it. I am telling everybody iv,e GOT IT. And I,ve had Covid symtoms for 5 YEARS.

 

[gemima]

But people can still get vaccines independently through clinics or pharmacies.
Hello jstar. I live in Pekanbaru Riau Provins. EVERYWHERE i,ve asked about a vaccine here is met with
a blank face. Indonesia is,nt interested in anything to do with Vaccines or Boosters or anything to do with Covid. Untill I do a definitive test to determine once and for all i either have it or dont have it. I am telling everybody iv,e GOT IT. And I,ve had Covid symtoms for 5 YEARS.

You can buy covid tests on tokopedia to test yourself at home.
Unless you have a severely compromised immune system you are unlikely to have a respiratory virus like covid for 5 years - its a self limiting infection in healthy humans.
Covid is circulating like regular colds and flus now - I had it last month (I still had some left over COVID tests so I tested myself - they are only going out of date i I dont use them up). I was fine in a few days. For me now the only difference between Covid and a regular cold is that Covid gives me a fever.
I had 2 vaccines and a booster but I havent boosted since then. If I was 65+ I would probably have visited my GP and paid for the booster.
We live in a developing country - they spend money where the need to - and paying out for boosters seems a luxury they cant afford here.

 

[Shadrach]

But people can still get vaccines independently through clinics or pharmacies.
Hello jstar. I live in Pekanbaru Riau Provins. EVERYWHERE i,ve asked about a vaccine here is met with
a blank face. Indonesia is,nt interested in anything to do with Vaccines or Boosters or anything to do with Covid. Untill I do a definitive test to determine once and for all i either have it or dont have it. I am telling everybody iv,e GOT IT. And I,ve had Covid symtoms for 5 YEARS.

This is a strange response? Are you promoting Vaccines, or Promoting Not to get Vaccines. How many People do you know that got the vaccine contract Covid, or Didn't get it? And How many that didn't get the Vaccine get Covid or not get it? So far in my experience, Everyone that got the Jab, Got Covid, more than once! When I was a young kid, I got the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella, and I guess the Polio Vaccine too. Never caught any of them. A Friend of mine, then, had caught Polio, when he was very Young. His left arm was the size of a young child when his other arm was full size and normal. It was not a nice site to see. When I was very very young, my Mother took me to see my Grandparents in a rural town in the Hills of Tennessee. I saw a young Girl, that at the end of her Shoulder was a tiny Miniature Hand. It was the size of a Quarter! Her Mother had taken a drug to stop Nausea during pregnancy. It was called Thalidomide. This happened to Thousands of Children. Some born with no limbs, some with a tiny hand like I saw, this was legally done by Doctors and under permission of the US Government! So everyone should know, that the Governments aren't always doing what best for the People!
So why is it now, Most of the People that got this Vaccine caught Covid many times? Maybe it's because it was rushed into distribution before proper testing?
I believe in Science, and medications. But I am confused about Vaccines? Don't forget, Some People get extremely sick, and others even Die, from Vaccines! Most of the effective vaccines, took years of Research, and Development, to be confirmed effective. I also believe in Ancient proven Organic, Natural Herbal remedies, that have been proven to work over centuries of Testing!
I wish the best Health for everyone, but we should approach this matter with more scrutiny!

 

[Shadrach]

You can buy covid tests on tokopedia to test yourself at home.
Unless you have a severely compromised immune system you are unlikely to have a respiratory virus like covid for 5 years - its a self limiting infection in healthy humans.
Covid is circulating like regular colds and flus now - I had it last month (I still had some left over COVID tests so I tested myself - they are only going out of date i I dont use them up). I was fine in a few days. For me now the only difference between Covid and a regular cold is that Covid gives me a fever.
I had 2 vaccines and a booster but I havent boosted since then. If I was 65+ I would probably have visited my GP and paid for the booster.
We live in a developing country - they spend money where the need to - and paying out for boosters seems a luxury they cant afford here.

I don't understand you. If you continuously get Covid, Why do you keep getting Jabs? They obviously don't prevent it. I've heard the lame statement, that oh, if you get more Jabs, you won't get very sick from Covid? This all sounds Crazy to me!

 

[gemima]

I don't understand you. If you continuously get Covid, Why do you keep getting Jabs? They obviously don't prevent it. I've heard the lame statement, that oh, if you get more Jabs, you won't get very sick from Covid? This all sounds Crazy to me!

I havent had any jabs since 2022. You are correct - you didnt understand my post. I didnt advise anyone to take jabs (thats a personal choice).

 

[harryopal1]

I needed to travel which at that time you could not do if you had not had a vaccine. I also got the booster for the same reason but happy to see that I never did get Covid. My wife also got the vaccine at that time and has not had Covid. With Covid and influenza constantly mutating the reality is that by the time a vaccine is available for mass use the Covid or flu has probably mutated. If there is no requirement to show having had a recent vaccine injection for travel then it is something I would prefer to miss..... flu or covid vaccine.

 

[Hawk256]

I needed to travel which at that time you could not do if you had not had a vaccine. I also got the booster for the same reason but happy to see that I never did get Covid. My wife also got the vaccine at that time and has not had Covid. With Covid and influenza constantly mutating the reality is that by the time a vaccine is available for mass use the Covid or flu has probably mutated. If there is no requirement to show having had a recent vaccine injection for travel then it is something I would prefer to miss..... flu or covid vaccine.

Same here for reasoning behind getting the vaccine. We both still ended up with COVID twice and I had an unexplained episode with my heart shortly after the booster. No evidence that the episode and jab are related but I will say that earlier in that year, I had a full heart health workup with stress test and sonogram which came back fine.

 

[Shadrach]

Same here for reasoning behind getting the vaccine. We both still ended up with COVID twice and I had an unexplained episode with my heart shortly after the booster. No evidence that the episode and jab are related but I will say that earlier in that year, I had a full heart health workup with stress test and sonogram which came back fine.

I'm sorry to hear about your Heart problem after getting the Booster. I hope you recovered well, and are doing fine now!

 

[Hawk256]

I'm sorry to hear about your Heart problem after getting the Booster. I hope you recovered well, and are doing fine now!

Thank you. At least we can openly talk about it now. Anything even remotely negative said at the time would get you ridiculed and put on the shit list.

 

[Shadrach]

Thank you. At least we can openly talk about it now. Anything even remotely negative said at the time would get you ridiculed and put on the shit list.

I know, At the beginning when getting the shot was at a frenzy, people were up in Arms about it. It became a Us verses Them situation. I was just discussing the Pro's and Con's about it, and I spoke with People that had gotten it, and some that had not. When I voiced my concerns about maybe it's not a good idea to get it, a couple I was talking to, got defensive, and started getting angry with me, because they had already gotten the vaccine. So then I realized to just not talk about it any more. I remember everywhere shutting down, The wear a mask Madness. People even coming up to you, and shouting at you, to cover your nose also, if it wasn't covered. You couldn't go to the Mall without a proof of Vaccine paper. There were even People fighting about it!
Who know's, maybe someday information will come out, that Shocks us All!

 

[Finlay Mitchell]

You can buy covid tests on tokopedia to test yourself at home.
Unless you have a severely compromised immune system you are unlikely to have a respiratory virus like covid for 5 years - its a self limiting infection in healthy humans.
Covid is circulating like regular colds and flus now - I had it last month (I still had some left over COVID tests so I tested myself - they are only going out of date i I dont use them up). I was fine in a few days. For me now the only difference between Covid and a regular cold is that Covid gives me a fever.
I had 2 vaccines and a booster but I havent boosted since then. If I was 65+ I would probably have visited my GP and paid for the booster.
We live in a developing country - they spend money where the need to - and paying out for boosters seems a luxury they cant afford here.

Thanks for the reply. I had no idea tests could be bought on Tokopedia. What happens if the test is positive ?? The reason i,m stating covid is, every test i,ve done over the years the results have come back normal . The last test i did in April was an EEG test. It was normal. I told the doc that is the last test i,m doing. Ive spent millions on tests and everyone is normal, I then mentioned Brain Fog, and he nodded and yes. As you said earlier, it could be the immune system, I do exercises every day but the shortness of breath is a factor. Sometimes it just does,nt cut it.

 

[harryopal1]

What amazed me was the mania for spraying everything. Roads, passing traffic, the sky, anything and everything. Apart from health the whole episode impacted so many people's livlihoods and so many busineses shut perhaps never to re-open. But clearly a few with the right connections providing and selling all the spray and gear, companies making test kits and some getting contracts with governments to supply and oversupply materials... made oodles of money.

Baroness (Michelle) Mone, a life peer in the UK House of Lords— who, during the COVID-19 pandemic, was linked to massive profits from government contracts for PPE (personal protective equipment), ostensibly obtained through the so-called VIP lane. Documents revealed that PPE Medpro bought gowns for ~£46 million but sold them for £122 million—a massive markup. The GuardianWikipedia Financial benefit: Alleged profit 60 million pounds overall. An enquiry continues into her 60 million pounds smile.

 

[Shadrach]

What amazed me was the mania for spraying everything. Roads, passing traffic, the sky, anything and everything. Apart from health the whole episode impacted so many people's livlihoods and so many busineses shut perhaps never to re-open. But clearly a few with the right connections providing and selling all the spray and gear, companies making test kits and some getting contracts with governments to supply and oversupply materials... made oodles of money.

Baroness (Michelle) Mone, a life peer in the UK House of Lords— who, during the COVID-19 pandemic, was linked to massive profits from government contracts for PPE (personal protective equipment), ostensibly obtained through the so-called VIP lane. Documents revealed that PPE Medpro bought gowns for ~£46 million but sold them for £122 million—a massive markup. The GuardianWikipedia Financial benefit: Alleged profit 60 million pounds overall. An enquiry continues into her 60 million pounds smile.

That Baroness was only one of many! Now after the World was knocked on it's butt. China is taking full advantage of the confusion. They are Smart in the way, that They don't have to conquer, or start Wars, they are coming in with Money, and taking the place of the US in providing Loans, Aid, infrastructure, and all the Small countries are eating it up. What the Small countries don't realize now, is there will be a price to pay later. All the construction will turn into toll roads, fees, and lots of interest to pay back on the loans. All going back to The Chinese!
Back to Covid, What I'm amazed about now, is even now after all that insanity. People here still wear masks like it's normal. I don't think I will never understand the group mentality here on Bali. I ask them why, and I get answers like I have the Flu usually. The People here don't seem to have any thoughts on maybe there's a different way? They all seem to say We don't do that, or this is how We do it here. All the cooking is the same, same spices, overcooked eggs, overcooked Shrimp, fake Cheese, and imitation Butter, Little Focus on Nutrition, etc. They do seem to be Creative in Art sometimes. But Thats it. I think there's a battle between The Traditional way, and Modern Technology?
I think it won't be long before something like Covid-19 will pop up again? The last one was an experiment in mind control of the masses, next it will be maybe worse, and we lose more rights, and Freedoms?

 

[gemima]

Thanks for the reply. I had no idea tests could be bought on Tokopedia. What happens if the test is positive ?? The reason i,m stating covid is, every test i,ve done over the years the results have come back normal . The last test i did in April was an EEG test. It was normal. I told the doc that is the last test i,m doing. Ive spent millions on tests and everyone is normal, I then mentioned Brain Fog, and he nodded and yes. As you said earlier, it could be the immune system, I do exercises every day but the shortness of breath is a factor. Sometimes it just does,nt cut it.

If you test positive now you just know you have covid and it doesnt really mean very much. It might get you a few days off work if your employer pays sick leave - but thats it.

An EEG test wont prove/ disprove you have covid - it will just show if you possibly have some signs of brain issues (epilsepy/ brain damage etc.). Do you mean ECG? That one also wont show if you have covid - its checks on your heart function.

It sounds like you possibly have some sort of chronic fatigue type illness which is poorly understood by medicine and hard to diagnose. I doubt you have COVID (i'm not a doctor/ your doctor so take my feedback with a huge pinch of salt).

 

[Helpful Herbert]

For chronic fatigue-type symptoms, I would check mineral deficiencies. For example a magnesium deficiency can cause those type of symptoms, as well as heart-related episodes, and if you find you are at the bottom of the range, or below it, for magnesium, it would be highly recommended to take magnesium supplements every day, which for me solved the problem straight away.
There are other deficiencies in things like Calcium, Zinc, Iron, Potassium which can also be problematic.